How to Survive the Downs

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Life is like a roller coaster. When things go downhill, throw your hands in the air and smile!

Have you ever met someone whose life seems to be falling apart and they’re happy anyway? Have you ever thought, “Wait a minute, you’re supposed to be miserable and depressed!”

It’s true. There are some who are simply in denial, and who hope that the problems will go away if they just ignore them. However, there are others who feel happy even when things are going down because they know a secret. They understand the 19 Rules of Prosperity.

These people can feel happy during a downturn because they know the ride never goes downhill forever. By law, it always turns upward again at the bottom – just like a roller coaster. They smile now because they’re focused on the longer term; and they’re already thinking about the joy and heights that life will take them to next.

Now, while we’re on this “roller coaster theme,” imagine you’ve saved for years to take your family to an exciting theme park on the other side of the country. You’ve pictured the laughter, the fun, the memories you plan to create: the joy of being together, the food, the free time; it’s all so very wonderful!

Now it’s finally time to take that trip. You enjoy a relaxing plane ride, settle in at the hotel, spend the night, and in the morning you have a full day to take in all of the theme park attractions. After entering the gate, you notice that just inside the entrance there are two roller coaster rides to choose from. The first one is called “Straight-Shot to Success” and goes like this:

“Straight Shot to Success”

You get on, and it pulls the line of cars all the way to the top of a twenty-story tower where ….

… it lets you off so you can climb down the stairs to do it again.

Look at the enthusiasm in this picture, just before unloading to climb down and repeat the experience all over again! (Wouldn’t it make for a pretty boring roller coaster ride? Yes. But isn’t that what we think we want out of life? A steady, predictable, safe and easy climb to success?) The thing is, if that’s what we got out of life, I think we’d feel pretty dissatisfied with the whole experience. Without the lows, the highs mean nothing.

So, let’s take a look at the second roller coaster ride called “Joy in the Journey,” which instead goes something like this:

“Joy in the Journey”

You get on, and it pulls you to the top of a big hill and then turns you loose into a series of ups and downs, loops and turns. Everyone is terrified and laughing, all at the same time.

Even when the people plummet at break-neck speeds straight toward the ground, they have a smile on their face.

Now, is that twisted, or what? Are they in denial?

No. They are genuinely enjoying themselves, because they know that the terror is temporary, that the danger is an illusion, and that it will come to an end. They know that they are in a controlled, safe environment that is simply giving them the appearance of danger. Deep down, they know everything is going to be okay in the long run.

Which rollercoaster ride do you think would have the longest waiting line? “Straight-Shot to Success,” or “Joy in the Journey?”

I choose the latter. Here’s what helps me endure the scary parts:

Believe it or not, like a roller coaster ride, Life itself is a safe environment, even with all its dangers.

Contrary to appearances, it truly is a safe place to be. From God’s vantage point, the things we fear are nothing to Him, including death itself.

Do you realize that the life you live is precisely the life you would have chosen all along? THIS is the life that brings you the greatest joy: the life with all the ups and aggravating downs. So be grateful for your downs, and as you allow your heart to swell with gratitude, you’re putting yourself into the right mindset to receive next the best “ups” that God has to offer.

The ups and downs we experience help us feel.

The change from up to down (or down to up) is precisely what makes it possible for us to recognize the difference from one emotion to the other. Like I said before, without the downs, the ups would be meaningless. The lows help us feel and appreciate the highs.

Bob Proctor says, “Most people tiptoe through life, trying to make it safely to death.” Do you see the irony in that? Instead, we should have courage and press on toward our dreams with full, fearless intention.

Fear not!

As Mark Twain said, “I am an old man and have known a great many troubles, but most of them never happened.”

You have a choice of what to think about. So think on the expected highs that put a smile on your face, instead of worrying about the imagined train wreck at the bottom of the hill that hasn’t even happened yet.

It is only when your heart is at peace that it is truly prepared to receive inspired solutions to your problems.

So, if you’re headed in a downward direction, be at peace. The tracks are bent and will surely guide your roller coaster car up to the top again in time. It’s going to be thrilling! And in fact, according to the Law of Rhythm, you’re already on your way. Originally published Mar 12, 2008

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AP Chemistry and Forest Fires

Positive Thinking Tip: Life’s disasters are like forest fires: they release new seeds, and always mark an exciting new beginning.


This is the third installment of my personal exposé that began with “Getting Personal Here” and which continued with “Something’s Gotta Change“.

In my last installment, I ended with:

“It’s nearly 3 am again – I’m eager to share what those extra lessons turned out to be, and you’re probably wondering, ‘so, what about the debts?’ or ‘what are you going to do with your business now?’ but I’ll have to save those details for next time.”

It’s finally “next time” so, here we go…

About those lessons learned, no doubt I haven’t learned all that I need to learn, and I’m sure there are more to come, but to this point I’ve learned a few:

For one thing, I recognized at least one huge blessing that was contained in my timely meltdown. As I said in the first post, I dropped off the map in May.  From May through October, my husband and I reassessed our roles, and found a more workable long-term plan for our family.

By November, I was breathing again, just in time to shift my attention to helping my oldest son prepare for a full-time 2-year service mission for our church.  He applied to serve and was assigned to a region that includes Northern Colorado and Southern Nebraska/Wyoming, and he was to report for training on February 8th, 2012.

To help him prepare for this assignment, we started gathering some serious winter clothing (seeing as how we didn’t really own any), there was a ton of paperwork to complete, and countless appointments to get all the doctor’s and dentist’s permissions and medical records turned in.

It doesn’t sound all that time consuming in hindsight, but it was a feat of ginormous proportions while I also worked to keep up on all the other children’s activities, needs, Christmas concerts, preparations for Christmas itself, and especially trying to help my junior survive AP Chemistry.

(At the same time, there were some business commitments that I still needed to fulfill, so once Christmas was behind me, those took center stage.)

Once my son was all settled into his missionary assignment, I was able to reflect on the timing of my meltdown and recognize that it gave me the space I needed to have some very special, meaningful experiences with him before sending him on his way. It’s possible that he has left the nest for good, and I feel so much gratitude for the sweet memories we were able to create with him those last few months.

Another lesson I learned had to do with letting go. 

To explain, let me share an experience I had with my 16 year-old son:

At the beginning of the school year, I encouraged him to sign up for AP Chemistry because he had enjoyed regular Chemistry, and because he had demonstrated an increased commitment for doing well in school and an increased willingness to study hard.

It seemed like an amazing opportunity, because his teacher had been the recipient of a national award, and so I pictured my son having an experience something akin to what was demonstrated in the movie “Stand and Deliver” with the dedicated and heroic teacher, Jaime Escalante.

I believed that with hard work and with my son taking advantage of ALL the help his dedicated and award-winning teacher would have to offer, my son could pull it off.

What I didn’t bank on were the unexpected challenges. Had we known that these issues were going to be part of the equation, I certainly would have thought twice:

  1. His teacher is rarely available outside of class.  There are two lunch periods, and my son’s lunch hour is during one of that teacher’s regular classes. He was invited to come in at lunch anyway, working independently while the other class is being conducted, with the plan to get some help here and there as time permits… but it never really worked. The teacher often taught right up to the bell and then it was time to go. He couldn’t help before school, because he was busy with an A-hour class. And, he was not available after school, either (I’m not sure why).
  2. There was a mentoring program at the school where students were paired up with other students who could help with a certain subject… however AP Chemistry was not one of the available topics. None of the volunteer mentors knew the topic well enough to help anyone.
  3. The students were required to use an online homework assignment program called WebAssign, and sometimes it rejected even the right answers.  One time (after beating our heads against the wall for HOURS), we called his teacher at home to get help on a problem, and his answer was, “Oh, yeah, that one is kind of buggy. You got the answer right, but for the online program you have to put in this other number [which was a wrong answer] to get it to accept it.”
  4. Another time we were stuck and his teacher said, “Have you tried Yahoo Answers?” (That’s where some other desperate, struggling student has copied/pasted the WebAssign question on Yahoo and a kind stranger has responded with an answer. To survive the class, students went looking for the answers on Yahoo, without really learning what’s going on and how to come to the answer… and because our award winning teacher is spread so thin, he even began to encourage the resource.)
  5. We hired a professional tutor to help my son with the class, but she couldn’t get the WebAssign to accept her answers, either.
  6. We hired a fellow class member who seemed to be understanding it a little better than the others, to help my son learn as they went. But sometimes he was not available, and ultimately began to get just as stuck as everyone else.
  7. The teacher told my son, “If you find yourself spending more than x minutes on any one problem, call me!” Well, that’s nice and all, but the fact of the matter is, under the circumstances, my son would have been on the phone with his teacher for HOURS at a time each night if he had had the gall to take him up on it.  My son did timidly take him up on the offer a few times, but rather than working to discover the gaps or mistakes in how my son was trying to solve the problems, the teacher just quickly rehearsed the process like he did in class and sent my son on his way. Sometimes he just outright told my son the answer so we could all get off the phone and move on with our lives.
  8. Oh, and the last time he told my son that he should call him at home, he added, “I’ll probably be grumpy about it, but then I’ll help you get the answer.”  Well, my son was already feeling like a huge inconvenience, like he was the one student who was struggling the most in that class, but in spite of that, he mustered the courage to call one more time, only to get the teacher’s voicemail, and days later, the teacher still had not returned his call.
  9. We recognized that this was a college level course, but at least in college, you can go to the science lab for help when you need it!!

Even though he was in danger of failing, and in spite of all these ridiculous obstacles, he managed to hang in there and keep a passing score.  I know it wasn’t an “A”, but the fact that he was passing was enough for me to be one seriously PROUD MAMA!

Then, on one particular day as I was experiencing some massive stress over this class from h***, and just as it was looking like my son was coming out of the woods, I got a phone call from his math teacher. She told me she was concerned because he was failing her class.

MATH?? Seriously?? That was one of his best subjects!  Because of his comfort level in math, apparently that was the class that was getting the neglect, just to save his bacon in Chemistry.

I sighed. Here we go...

I asked, “So… are there any assignments he’s missing that he can make up?”

“No,” she said, “we don’t accept late work or retakes. Department policy.”

Well, that was the last straw. My blood began to boil (I was a secondary math teacher in my former life, and could not fathom denying a student of the opportunity to fix past mistakes. After all, if it takes time for them to want to learn it better, thank heavens they want to learn it at all! Let them learn it! Better late than never! If they’re having to do homework-triage to stay afloat in a potentially college-credit bearing class, give them a break!)

She continued, “He’ll just have to do really well from this point going forward. Now, if he would like to come in at lunch to get some help…”

Lunch?? He was already expected to be spending lunches in his Chemistry room hoping for some help from that teacher. He didn’t need math help, he just didn’t have time to keep up.

It was in that moment that the impossibility of the situation sunk in. We had been fighting the Chemistry battle for seven months, always thinking that there MUST be a way to succeed, but suddenly the reality was clear. After all he could do, it was still not going to be good enough. The resources I had assumed would be available to him just weren’t there, and left to himself, it was just too much.

(Because of what I teach, I believed it could still be conquered, but it didn’t matter what I thought, it only mattered what he thought... and he had lost hope. Who could blame him?)

In that moment of peak anxiety, as I stressed like never before over what I could do to help him conquer, an impression came to me, quiet and serene, that said, “Let it go. There’s a better way.”

I caught my breath and pondered the impression. For the first time all year, it suddenly felt okay to consider having him withdraw… that it wouldn’t be the end of the world, and that in every life experience there is a valuable lesson to learn.

Some words from my mother came to me. She had said, “Leslie, if he has to retake a class, even that will be a valuable life-lesson. It’s all going to be okay.”

I realized how attached I had become to the perfect, ideal outcome of his school year. He had chosen to take the public-school path, and I had determined to support him in that. In doing so, I had locked on to the expectation of nothing but success and it only aggravated the matter.

My tenacity (sometimes a good trait when applied to one’s own goals) blinded me to a potentially better alternative within the framework of the path he had chosen.

I was reminded of the principle of agency, and that we are free to succeed but we’re also free to fail. Some of our greatest life-lessons are gained through our failures, and it was being revealed to me that I really wasn’t at peace with my children experiencing failure like perhaps I thought I was… and that needed to change.

A good parent has to detach themselves from certain outcomes in order for the child to experience the full lesson it contains for them. The agency, the accountability, the contrast, the lesson. I was feeling how important it was for me to let go of the outcome, and be a steady force for encouragement and also unconditional acceptance of my son, no matter how he chose to cope with the mess.

The next day he texted me from class: “Mom, this class is killing me, I can’t take it any more!”

So when he came home from school I shared with him the sense of peace that had come over me – how I felt that God was helping me see that it’s okay to look for and find a better path. We talked about what it would mean if he failed the class, what he’d have to do next year to make up for it, what his other options might be, and what it would mean to withdraw and have a study hall for the last few months of school.

His countenance lightened significantly, and after a meeting with his counselor to find all the options and consequences, he, of his own decision, determined to hang on at least for another two weeks until the end of the quarter, and then reassess.

Freedom to choose is foundational to a person’s happiness – and sometimes the fetters we feel aren’t visible. I had been holding him back, without even realizing it. Much of his stress had been coming from my unspoken expectations, and once he felt released of them, he found the strength within himself to make a courageous choice completely independently.

What does this have to do with my May meltdown, and what’s happened since? I think I had been feeling fettered, too. I needed to reclaim my agency and really find out if I still had any.

Like I said, a good parent has to detach themselves from certain outcomes in order for the child to experience the full lesson it contains for them. Perhaps that is what God was doing with me. He let me feel like it was finally okay if I wanted to stop teaching the principles. He set me free, and I truly feel more free than I’ve ever felt before to do what I choose. I feel His encouragement, and His unconditional acceptance, which is now allowing me to feel more joy in the work when I do choose to spend time with it.

That I’m not conducting teleclasses every week, or traveling for speaking engagements twice a month, the business income has declined. We’ve had to sell assets, and are preparing to downsize if that becomes necessary, too. But I wanted to breathe more than I wanted the money. Sure, I still insist that “there’s always a way,” but sometimes the objective, I’ve learned, isn’t always worth the sacrifice.

On the other side of these lessons, as I’m finding my breath again, I’m feeling more joy, too. I’m not numb anymore. There is tremendous joy in lofty achievement, but there’s also a sweet joy to be found in what is, just as it is right now.

I’ve been feeling greater joy again in the little things. I’m getting to know my kids better, too. My days are filled with conscious concern for each of their needs, and my time is spent setting goals and carrying them out for the purpose of addressing those needs.

It’s a leap of faith to focus on my mothering role more than my business roles, but it’s coming more naturally than ever before, and that’s a dream come true. I have no regrets over the way the last 10 years were spent – it was right for us at the time – and this change is right for us right now.

I’ve discovered that my teenagers need my attention a whole lot more than they did when they were little. With that in mind, I’m grateful that the bulk of my work was completed while they were young… a work I can return to more actively as they grow and leave the nest. I still work it now, but only a little bit each week – a perfect pace for our family in this stage of our development.

As for our debts, we started talking again with each of our creditors about what we could do to get them all paid. I was in contact with every one of them, some on a weekly basis, not because I really had anything to work with, but because I wanted them to know of my commitment to making things right. I began calling them faster than they were calling me, and found that most of them were more accommodating than they had been two years earlier, back when the pinch was the tightest.

It was interesting, because more than once I called a creditor to say, “I can’t pay what you’re asking, but I do have ‘x’ that I can send you right now…” and they’d say, “No, keep it… we’d prefer to settle with you when you have a larger chunk to lay down.”

So, I’d tell them what business activities were on the calendar and promised to let them know what we had to work with (if anything) after each event.

Long story short, as with my son’s Chemistry class, after all we could do, our efforts and intentions were still never enough. But once you know without reservation that you’ve done all you can do, and it still isn’t enough, there’s a sweet peace that comes over you and assures you that everything is going to be okay – that there’s a better path, and that it won’t be much longer before you find it.  As with my son’s class, maybe it means coming to peace with the idea of “withdrawing” from “class” (abandoning a goal) and finding a more realistic pace you can live with. After all…

Life is not a sprint.

We’re still finding our path, but we’re gathering clues along the way and we definitely feel guided.  A refinement is in process and we know it’s good.

Every life lesson is valuable. It’s all about finding joy in the journey. Our successes teach us a little, but our failures teach us the most. In a way, my husband and I are starting over, but this time with more wisdom, more experience, and more clarity on what we really want together. We feel more patience with ourselves and each other. Our long term goals don’t need to be realized in three months… after all, they’re long term goals.

And having reached our breaking point and finding out that we’re still alive, and can still think and do and make choices, we feel greater freedom than perhaps we have ever felt before.  The bank account may not reflect financial freedom yet, but we believe it will. We’ve shaken off societal expectations, we’ve unfettered ourselves of the need to “look successful”, and we’ve exposed, identified, and eradicated many of the unfair expectations we’ve had on each other.  If it had to take a major financial setback to bring those issues to the surface so we could address them, then how grateful I am for those setbacks.

Life is sweeter, our relationships are more tender, our family is stronger, our future is brighter, and best of all, it feels like our relationship with God is more alive and present.  I’ve come to the conclusion that the peace I felt about the prospect of my son failing Chemistry is the same peace I feel from my Father in Heaven about our financial failures: it’s going to be okay.

It’s all just a spider that showed up and is moving us to a place (figuratively speaking) where we can, I believe, receive greater blessings in the long run. As such, it will be fun to see where this leads us.

To wrap up:

I’m grateful that I was able to let go of the impossible expectations on my son, because it freed him up to discover his agency, and enact some new levels of personal leadership. They had been stifled as long as he had *me* to answer to for his performance in an impossible class. Whether he fails or succeeds, it’s okay, because I know there will be another new day, either way.

Just the same, after dropping off the map in May, my Father in Heaven helped me finally feel permission to release all the impossible expectations of myself, and it has opened the door for me to rediscover my free agency, and new levels of personal leadership.  (They had been stifled so long as I wasn’t letting up on myself, either.)

Through this metamorphosis, I’ve gained valuable wisdom, and an increase in happiness, especially because I’ve felt the Lord’s assurance that my failures aren’t fatal.

My disasters are simply like forest fires: they release new seeds, and always mark an exciting new beginning.

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Cherishing Those Teenage Boys

I have mixed emotions right now – thought I’d write to try and sort it all out.  I’m going to be working with a woman soon to help her with her book as part of my Profitable Author Coaching program, and in preparation for my first call with her, I’ve been reading her blog http://theemptybed.blogspot.com.

I’m a little concerned that this may be one especially difficult project for me, because as much as I look forward to helping her achieve her goals, the topic is tough.  She lost her 16 year-old son to a heart disease less than 2 years ago, and her book and her blog is all about going through the grieving process and coming out on the other end okay.

As I read her posts, I couldn’t help but feel fearful that I’m not doing enough to cherish the time I have with my own children, especially my teenage sons.  In less than 5 days I will be sending my oldest son Jacob (age 19) to a 2-year church service mission, and it’s impossible for me to imagine how I will do without him for that long.

I’ve thought it will be a piece of cake, because he’s always on the go, always busy, and I hardly see him now as it is, but the closer it gets, the more worried I feel that I haven’t done enough to savor the time we’ve had together.  Reading about this woman’s son who has passed on is making it especially difficult.

Additionally, my sixteen year-old son Nathan was also born with a heart defect (TAVPR), and underwent open heart surgery as soon as they discovered the total lack of connection between the veins coming from his lungs and his left atrium, as well as an obstruction that complicated matters.  It was repaired, thanks to the miracle of modern medicine – in all the thousands of years that humans have been on the Earth, it’s amazing to me, and it brings me much gratitude to think, that had he been born some 50 years earlier he probably would not have survived.

Even still, I remember over hearing the doctor tell the intern at his 3 month check up: “Children with his defect AND obstruction don’t typically make it past 3 months, even after surgery” – but here he was growing, thriving, and ready to take on the world in spite of it.

Now he’s 16, singing in the choir and playing tennis every chance he gets.  Am I making enough memories with him? Am I living life in such a way that I will have no regrets? Is it even possible? No matter how well we live, and how much attention we give our relationships, will we always find something to regret?

One thing I know is that there is a time to mourn and a time to rejoice. Without sadness we could never understand happiness. I’ve lived with my Jacob for 19 years and don’t know what it’s like to live without him. Perhaps sending him on his way next week is the only way I’ll really come to understand what we’ve had all along.

I love you, Jacob and Nathan – I’m so proud of you both and pray that you’ll feel the depths of my joy that you are mine now and forever.

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It’s Happy Mother’s Day, So you Have to Be Happy

Psalms 127:3-5 “Children are an heritage of the Lord… Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them.”

I was the youngest of four children so there was never a baby sibling for me to tend. My family moved to Asia for a few years and because of our sheltered expatriate experience, I only had the opportunity to baby sit once until we returned to the States.

Unfortunately, by the time we settled in to our new home, I had lost interest and can count on one hand all the times I was employed to watch someone else’s children.

Nevertheless, I still looked forward to motherhood. I knew that, according to all my church lessons growing up, I would find my greatest joys in raising a family.

I married when I was twenty and had my first baby when I was twenty-one. We weren’t fortunate enough to have immediate family close by, so we navigated the jungles of our new parenthood pretty much on our own. I never realized it could be so tough.

Naturally, I had a hard time adjusting to the demands of caring for a new baby; after all, I had scarcely ever cared for a toddler. I’m convinced that there was never a person more UNprepared for motherhood as I. Never had I been required to think more of someone else’s needs than my own for such an extended (um…eternal) period of time. I was overwhelmed and felt as though I was losing my identity.

Ironically, I got pretty good at handling one child just in time for a second one to arrive. It seemed that as our family grew, I learned to manage the number of children I had, just as our numbers increased again by one. With the arrival of a new baby, life was back to mayhem all over again for approximately two years until I learned to handle the new responsibility of yet another child.

For any woman who has reared at least one child, or who has ever babysat a handful of active youngsters, she knows that getting six children ready for church in the morning could be a real challenge; especially when all but the baby are still in Primary.

One morning was particularly frustrating because it was Mother’s Day and I wasn’t feeling very good about how the day was going. I tried not to expect too much special treatment, just in case it didn’t happen. After all, I knew that the children were too young to understand that I honestly didn’t want a picture for the fridge or a weed-flower from the yard; all I wanted was for them to do the things they were supposed to do, without my nagging. For Mother’s Day, couldn’t the house be orderly and the dishes done and breakfast made without me, for one measley day out of the year?

I’m sure my husband made breakfast and did his best to make the morning special. But in spite of it all, I found myself having a pity party that things weren’t absolutely perfect, nor would they ever be. To think that this was just the way it was going to be, probably FOREVER, was terribly discouraging and I moped around, banging cupboard doors and griping at anyone in my path.

Somehow we managed to get everyone out the door and in the car for church, probably ten minutes behind our preferred departure time. I breathed deeply, trying to shake the negativity and prepare myself for sacrament meeting.

Then there came a little four year-old voice from behind. Everyone had been pretty silent, trying not to set me off further, so this tender voice was clearly heard by everyone in the car.

“It’s Happy Mother’s day, Mom… so… you have to be happy.”

I smiled, looked at my husband, and we both started to chuckle. Then my tears flowed.

So it was. It was Happy Mother’s day, and here I was a mother. By mere virtue of
the calling, I should be happy. Hearing my son’s hopeful reminder instantly softened my heart and I finally began once again to feel the joy which was always meant to accompany my role. Happiness was not meant to come through having a perfectly orderly home, at least during the early years. I was reminded of a wooden sign in a friend’s home which said, “Cleaning the house while the kids are still growing is like shoveling the walk while it’s still snowing” (Author unknown).

Another reminder comes from this wonderful poem:

Mother, O Mother, come shake out your cloth,
Empty the dustpan, poison the moth,
Hang out the washing, make up the bed,
Sew on a button and butter the bread.
Where is the mother whose house is so shocking?
She’s up in the nursery, blissfully rocking.
Oh, I’ve grown as shiftless as Little Boy Blue,Lullaby, rockabye, lullaby loo.
Dishes are waiting and bills are past due
Pat-a-cake, darling, and peek, peek-a-boo
The shopping’s not done and there’s nothing for stew
And out in the yard there’s a hullabaloo
But I’m playing Kanga and this is my Roo
Look! Aren’t his eyes the most wonderful hue?
Lullaby, rockaby lullaby loo.
The cleaning and scrubbing can wait till tomorrow
But children grow up as I’ve learned to my sorrow.
So quiet down cobwebs; Dust go to sleep!
I’m rocking my baby and babies don’t keep.
– Ruth Hulbert Hamilton

Joy does not come from an orderly home so much as it should come through the sweet and tender relationships with my family members. Through my little boy’s words, I was reminded that motherhood is truly synonymous with happiness, when I am able to just relax and take time to smell their precious gifts of Mother’s Day flowers and enjoy their homemade pictures on the fridge.

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Do the Challenges Ever Stop?

Positive Thinking Tip: When you are down to nothing, God is up to something.

It’s thrilling to discover the principles of prosperity, and it’s especially exciting when you see them work for the first time.

From there, you feel empowered and encouraged to think bigger and test the principles on more significant tasks. But when you face a setback, you might be left wondering, “What just happened here? I thought that if I just live the principles perfectly, the rest of my life would be easy!”

I have an answer for this, and I hope it doesn’t burst anyone’s bubble too much… but we were placed on this earth to grow.

All life is compelled to grow and expand. That is one of the definitions that helps us determine whether something is alive: does it grow?

In order for us to grow, we must have challenges that stretch us beyond our present limits. We must work our mental muscles and exercise our mind, body, and spirit in order to have the joy and experience the success that only comes through growth and expansion. There are few joys that exceed the feeling of facing a difficult challenge, and overcoming it.

The truth is, that if we ever found ourselves without challenges, we would become unhappy and restless.

Remember when you were a child, and your mother tried to teach you how to tie your shoe?

Did it work the first time you tried it? Probably not. And it was probably very frustrating, and likely evoked some tears.

In that moment, there had never been so great a challenge in your life. You wanted to throw in the towel, give up, and if it didn’t make you cry, it probably made you growl in frustration. However, in time, it became old hat for you and you could do it without even thinking.

Then when you were in sixth grade, your teacher probably assigned you a book report that would take several weeks and had to fill up about 4 pages. You had never done an assignment that big before, and it was overwhelming. In time, and after being required to do a number of similar assignments, it was no big deal. What took several weeks could be completed in a day, because you had experience.

Fast forward to college.

Remember those projects that ultimately determined your final grade? Remember the countless hours on the computer? Remember closing off your social life in order to meet that deadline? It was overwhelming, and the stress was unbelieveable. You had never been required to work so hard on something so important! If you were like me, you shed many tears and begged your professor more than once for mercy.

Then for some of you, you started in the work force and had job pressures and bills to pay. Sometimes it was too much to bear. You thought you had it pretty tough until…

You got married and added a spouse to the picture.

Now there were work pressures, bills to pay, and a spouse to please. Who knew that being responsible to one other person could stir things up that much?

Pretty soon, you got into the routine of things, and even though things are tough, you have no idea what tough means until…

You start having children.

Are there words to describe how complicated things became when kids entered the picture??

Now wait a minute… think back to the time when you were learning to tie your shoe. Oh, if only life were that easy now!!!

But remember, at the time, when you were six and you had to figure out how to pull the string just enough to make a loop and not enough to make a knot, it was as though the world was falling apart and it was nearly more than you could cope with.

One day, today’s challenges will look like child’s play as you learn to conquer them.

All that I do through my books and programs is to provide the tools you need to learn how to succeed in overcoming the challenges you face today. Will challenges in general go away? No.

But you’ll be prepared to handle bigger challenges, and you’ll grow in faith, hopefully learning to rely more perfectly on God in all you do.

It seems that life will only get more challenging.

WAIT!

I didn’t say life has to get worse… or even harder, but it will constantly deliver more and more ADVANCED challenges.

As we learn the laws and adopt them into our habits, we become successful at overcoming them more and more gracefully. Every challenge could easily seem overwhelming… but only relative to what we’ve conquered in the past.

Challenges are important because they help us build confidence.

Imagine a child who never gained confidence in learning something simple… what if they were required to hold office as president of a large organization! Each challenge is intended to lead us along to receive all that God would have us receive. Each is an opportunity to overcome and gain increased confidence in the partnership we are developing between ourselves and God.

You can get good at handling finances and attracting wealth. Learning to achieve prosperity is a skill that can be improved. Just as you got good at tying a shoe, this is one skill that can become a strength.

Don’t get discouraged if new challenges show up. It doesn’t mean you are failing. It means you have grown to a point where God believes you can handle something else. It is an indication of His increased faith in you.

I heard somewhere, “When you are down to nothing, God is up to something”. There is joy to be had in the struggle. As we learn to find peace in each whirlwind of trouble around us, that is success. Then, the prosperity you want begins to flow naturally.

Seek peace and prosperity comes, seek prosperity and peace flees.

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The Law of Vibration and the Spirit of God

This is the transcript of a chat I conducted many years ago, but I just found it in my files and thought I’d share it with my readers. Enjoy!

“The Law of Vibration and the Spirit of God” with Leslie Householder

Chat held as an unofficial follow-up after the SheLovesGod Virtual Women’s Conference Nov. 21, 2004

19:34:49 [LoriS] I still don’t really understand the Law of Vibration. Any tips on that one?

19:38:25 [LoriS] How does it work in Christianity terms?

19:38:42 [LoriS] Prayer, etc.

19:39:39 [marniep] Yes, prayer… promptings from the Holy Spirit.

19:40:15 [marniep] visions, dreams, revelations… all fall in this category

19:42:09 Leslie enters this room

19:42:31 [marniep] Hi Leslie… Lori, ask Leslie your questions about Law of Vibration…

19:42:33 [LoriS] hello, Leslie.

19:43:18 [LoriS] Leslie, I was trying to understand the Law of Vibration. It’s the most difficult one for me.

19:43:20 [Amy] Hi Leslie !

19:44:31 [Leslie] tell me what you know, or what you’ve been told so far, so I can hone in a little better than just spouting out of the blue

19:45:29 [LoriS] Feel free to spout, I don’t mind. But I am specifically wondering how the Law of Vibration works with Christianity.

19:45:46 [LoriS] Is it a mindset that I need to have during prayer?

19:46:18 [Leslie] okay, tell me this: have you ever been to a church meeting where you really really felt something powerful?

19:46:25 [marniep] you listened to Leslie’s call on Monday – right Lori?

19:46:30 [Leslie] as you listened to the sermon

19:46:46 [LoriS] Yes, I listened to that call. That’s the only thing I’ve ever heard about this law.

19:47:23 [LoriS] Yes, I have been to a sermon like that. I remember zoning in on the preacher in such a focused way that all else seemed to black out , like a camera lens.

19:47:25 [Leslie] in Christianity, I think most of us call it “feeling the Spirit”

19:47:38 [Leslie] is that how you interpreted the feeling?

19:48:09 [LoriS] “feeling the Spirit?”

19:48:13 [Leslie] yeah

19:48:26 [LoriS] Or, something powerful — I’d say it was something powerful.

19:48:50 [Leslie] okay, would you say it came from God?

19:49:03 [LoriS] Yes

19:49:27 [LoriS] It was what I needed at the right time

19:49:40 [Leslie] if you wanted to feel it again, what do you think you would do to prepare yourself for such an experience?

19:50:15 [LoriS] Wait is the thing that comes to mind!

19:50:34 [LoriS] And keep an open ear and open heart/mind

19:51:11 [Leslie] yes, and I’ll add a few things to the list based on my own experiences…

19:51:26 [LoriS] ok

19:51:46 [Leslie] after feeling that kind of power, that kind of “communication” or whatever it was, from God…

19:52:22 [Leslie] I have been able to feel it many many times in my life when I have these elements in my mind or heart…

19:53:00 [Leslie] a desire for it, humility, obedience to the commandments,

19:53:44 [Leslie] but an important part is to focus, and concentrate, in a spiritual way…

19:54:05 [Leslie] seeking a oneness with God

19:54:27 [Leslie] and when I am prepared in these ways…

19:55:12 [Leslie] I can go to my church meetings and it doesn’t matter what the preacher is saying, I feel the direct communication from the Lord, and the message reaches me.
19:55:53 [Leslie] I believe that this explains why two people sitting in church can get two different things out of the meeting…
19:56:16 [Leslie] because they are each at a different place in their life, needing different messages from the Lord…
19:56:51 [marniep] The spirit translates the message into whatever you need to hear.

19:56:54 [Leslie] I imagine that the time you had your experience, you might have been near someone else that DIDN’T experience it too…

19:57:21 [LoriS] Likely

19:57:22 [Leslie] before I go on to tie this in with the Law of Vibration, is this making sense so far?

19:57:41 [Amy] yes !
19:57:52 [Leslie] Lori?

19:58:04 [LoriS] Yes, I think it may have been what you are talking about when I prayed once about my dh and then every sermon, every radio talk,

19:58:14 [LoriS] etc., kept being about “serving.”

19:58:32 [Leslie] wow. Yes, that’s it.

19:58:34 [LoriS] I started “serving” Tim and great things happened after that between us – an answer to prayer.

19:58:42 [Leslie] now, this is the really neat part…

19:59:01 [Leslie] (that’s really neat, Lori)

19:59:14 [Leslie] Do you know what tuning forks are?

19:59:25 [LoriS] Yes

19:59:50 [Leslie] I have two really large tuning forks, each mounted on a sounding box…

20:00:32 [Leslie] so that the part you normally hold is stuck to the top surface of a wooden box that is open on two opposing ends.

20:01:00 [Leslie] I can put them near each other, but not touching, and when I strike one of them…

20:01:22 [Leslie] if they are in tune with each other, the other fork will actually start to “sing” as well

20:01:38 [LoriS] Wow!

20:01:41 [Leslie] if they are slightly out of tune with each other, then when I strike the first one,

20:01:49 [Leslie] the other one stays dead silent.

20:02:24 [Leslie] This shows me that if WE are “in tune” with God, then his messages will resonate with our own spirits.

20:02:47 [Leslie] if we are out of tune, then quite often we just don’t “get it”

20:03:18 [Leslie] we control how in tune we are with Him by the thoughts we keep in our minds… “as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he”

20:04:04 [Leslie] now the Law of Vibration states that everything vibrates. If we have had 9th grade chemistry, we learned that on the molecular level, that is true.

20:04:25 [Leslie] the table in front of me, as solid as it seems, is actually in a state of vibration…

20:05:06 [Leslie] water is H2O in a liquid vibratory state, but as ice, the vibrations are slower, and as vapor, the vibrations are extremely rapid.

20:05:29 [Leslie] WE are vibrating.

20:05:51 [Leslie] a “feeling” is nothing more than a conscious awareness of a particular vibration

20:07:08 [Leslie] so when we “feel” something at church, or as we read God’s word, then we can be aware that our own vibration (if you will) is at the moment in harmony with the Spirit of the Lord

20:07:21 [Leslie] just like the second tuning fork

20:07:33 [LoriS] LIGHT BULB moment here! I get the law of vibration! I needed the visual of the tuning forks!

20:07:56 [Leslie] so, how do we apply this idea to our lives and abundance? That’s where I’ll go next unless you have any questions

20:08:03 [LoriS] This makes it easier to stop questioning whether a “feeling” is from God or not.

20:08:14 [Leslie] yes!

20:08:34 [Leslie] if it persuades us to believe in Christ then it is most definitely from God

20:09:04 [marniep] and Lori, you can go back to Galatians 5:22 that we discussed earlier to tell whether a feeling comes from God: “The fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance”

20:09:23 [Leslie] now I seek abundance in my own life. I have a lot of goals for myself and my family that frankly will cost a good deal of money…

20:09:59 [Leslie] but as I choose my goals, I like to pray about them and see if I get that feeling, so I can know if it is an appropriate desire for me to have.

20:10:05 [LoriS] Thanks, Marnie

20:10:17 [Leslie] once I get that, then look out because I know He’s on my side

20:10:31 [LoriS] Does that also help you with timing — what to pursue first?

20:11:06 [Leslie] yeah, so often we are faced with so many GOOD choices that we get all gummed up and get nothing done…

20:11:53 [LoriS] I do that a LOT

20:12:39 [Leslie] but I’ve discovered that He seems to make me sort things out on my own first, as if He’s trying to make me grow, and when I use my own judgement to set priorities, I then take it to Him with “this is what I’ve come up with, is this right?” and I check for that feeling. If I feel peace, then I know
20:13:39 [Leslie] it’s right. If I feel confusion, then I rethink and try to come up with some other idea. Fear is NOT an answer, because He is never the author of fear. That’s the “enemy’s” job

20:13:44 [Leslie] (Satan)
20:14:16 [LoriS] Confusion is usually Satan? Or at least it is not God?

20:14:35 [Leslie] no, confusion is just the absence of peace.

20:14:43 [Leslie] fear is Satan’s answer

20:14:48 [marniep] It’s an absense of the Spirit

20:15:09 [marniep] Think Spirit=Peace, Spirit=Joy

20:15:14 [LoriS] When you say “fear”, does confusion fall into that same category?

20:15:26 [marniep] Without those, you don’t have the Holy Spirit’s seal of approval on your choice.

20:15:28 [Leslie] so when I pray, I am looking for peace and love versus confusion. Confusion is just, like Marnie said, the absence of the Spirit, or the absence of peace

20:15:45 [Leslie] no, confusion is not in the same category as fear

20:15:51 [LoriS] ok

20:15:56 [Leslie] confusion for me after a prayer like that is like…

20:16:23 [Leslie] my mind darting all over the place and the utter inability to hold the thought of my idea I came to HIm with.

20:16:33 [Leslie] does that make sense?
20:17:11 [LoriS] Obviously I feel confused a lot, so I’m asking about it the most!

20:17:26 [LoriS] Yes, I’ve felt that way after prayer.

20:17:37 [LoriS] YOu’re both really clearing this up for me. I haven’t know what

20:17:44 [LoriS] known…what is or isn’t from God.

20:18:08 [Leslie] well when you have a light bulb moment, that is sort of how it feels to tap into pure truth. It makes sense, it feels good, it causes your faith to grow, it brings a bit of joy…

20:18:38 [Leslie] I think that’s how God leads us along, steering us on how to live in the happiest way possible.
20:20:17 [Leslie] so, Lori, are you looking for how to have more abundance in your life?
20:21:06 [LoriS] Yes, very much! God has been working on me intensely over the past 4 years. I wasn’t making Him a priority, but more and more I”ve felt Him

20:21:27 [LoriS] nudging me. So many things in my life have changed over those years.
20:21:54 [Leslie] what kind of abundance are you seeking now… more understanding of Him, or financial, or in relationships… anything specific?
20:22:11 [LoriS] I told Marnie and Amy that God has led me to be a writer since I was a little girl — now I know it is in the direction of helping other young moms — like Titus 2 , in “keeping the home.”
20:23:11 [LoriS] Um, financial is a concern — dh lost his job 8 weeks ago (in a weird, no sense to it kind of way – I can’t help but think God has his hand in it)

20:23:36 [LoriS] Even though finances is a concern, I”m not really concerned though.
20:23:47 [Leslie] that’s good

20:23:48 [LoriS] If I could change one thing I KNOW what it would be.
20:23:48 [LoriS] If I could change one thing I KNOW what it would be.

20:24:16 [LoriS] I haven’t been spending quality time with God. Just little snippets of devotionals, little praise-prayers.

20:24:18 [Leslie] what would it be?

20:24:45 [LoriS] I’d like to spend more time with Him — I’m trying to get up at 6am to get an hour in before the kids (4 of them, ages 1 to 9) wake up.

20:25:04 [Leslie] okay, good

20:25:06 [LoriS] I’d change that habit of not being with God.
20:25:40 [LoriS] (I’m not doing well at the getting up thing — I’m 50/50 now. Something keeps getting in the way!)

20:25:43 [Leslie] sounds like you are already changing that habit
20:25:59 [LoriS] How do you keep Satan out of the way for a while?
20:26:17 [Leslie] what kinds of things get in the way?

20:26:31 [LoriS] My second change would be to start writing regularly.
20:27:15 [Leslie] because you enjoy it or because you are shooting for a certain accomplishment?

20:27:22 [LoriS] The kids will get up too early, I won’t get enough sleep the night before, etc. I’m very flexible and a creative-type person.

20:27:31 [LoriS] It’s hard to be self-disciplined.
20:28:21 [LoriS] As far as writing — yes, I know that I am supposed to write . And I know it is to be for young mothers. “Keeping the home” is the theme that has lately been on my heart — from Titus 2.

20:29:56 [Leslie] lol, I am in the middle of the same effort. I have a handful of kids myself, and trying to get up at 5 to walk with a friend, and then study before the kids get up. I’m afraid I am not the guru on this one. On the other hand, if you want your dh to get a great job, or if you want someTHING I can

20:30:06 [Leslie] tell you exactly how to do that

20:30:20 [LoriS] LOL

20:30:31 [LoriS] I’ll tell you 2 things.

20:30:54 [LoriS] I want to write a book OR you can choose dh getting a great job, we need that income!

21:22:56 [Leslie] so you decide what it is that you want. Be as specific as possible.

21:23:15 [Leslie] I’ll take the example of your dh’s job.

21:24:21 [Leslie] Back to the law, the fact that everything vibrates. Everything has a specific vibratory characteristic. A carrot has a specific vibration associated with it. Everything does.

21:25:59 [Leslie] imagine you go into some fast food restaurant.

21:26:24 [Leslie] Now imagine going into the fanciest restaurant in town.

21:26:41 [Lori] ok

21:26:46 [Leslie] both have food, both have employees, both have parking lots, etc…

21:27:09 [Leslie] but one has a better “atmosphere”, would you agree?

21:28:28 [Lori] Absolutely!

21:28:37 [Leslie] Have you ever been somewhere that was so utterly lavish, you felt uncomfortable? (any kind of place, not just a restaurant)

21:28:55 [Lori] Yes, I’m not uppity-up. I feel out of place there.

21:29:28 [Leslie] on the other hand, have you ever been somewhere really horrible, maybe it was filthy, and you felt uncomfortable there, too?

21:29:48 [Lori] Yes

21:30:25 [Leslie] We must realize that everything, not just ojects, have a specific vibration. Situations have a specific vibration. Places do, people do, everything does.

21:30:56 [Lori] Which is why we feel uncomfortable in those places.

21:31:14 [Leslie] When we feel uncomfortable, it is because WE are not in harmony with that particular vibration.

21:31:17 [Leslie] right

21:31:28 [Lori] That makes sense.

21:31:35 [Leslie] So the point is, and the most sobering part of this law is this…

21:32:47 [Leslie] we are in harmony right now with the situations we are in. The way we live, the balance in our checkbook, everything about our life, is the way it is because subconsciously we are in perfect harmony with it.

21:33:00 [Leslie] We might not like it…

21:33:14 [Leslie] and we might do everything we know how to change it….

21:33:44 [Leslie] but until we change the state of our vibration, we will continue to live as we do.

21:33:54 [Leslie] let me illustrate…

21:34:35 [Leslie] imagine you have a drop of water and a drop of milk…

21:34:42 [Lori] ok

21:34:57 [Leslie] and you bring them close together gradually, what will happen to them?

21:35:50 [Lori] They will mix, becoming watery milk

21:36:03 [Leslie] would you have to try very hard to get them to join?

21:36:18 [Lori] not at all

21:36:59 [Leslie] kind of like the way clouds gather. The moisture is in the air, and they gather and join together very automatically…

21:37:22 [Leslie] but then take a drop of water and a drop of vegetable oil. Could you make them join?

21:37:33 [Lori] no, they repel

21:38:05 [Leslie] the water and milk (or water and water as in clouds) are in harmonious vibration with each other. The water and the oil are not.

21:38:30 [Leslie] So here’s how this works:

21:40:11 [Leslie] If I am experiencing lack of any kind, then my mind is in harmony with lack, and unless I change my vibration, I will continue to draw to myself experiences and people and circumstances that lend to more of the same: lack.

21:41:22 [Lori] That makes sense when you imagine the poor communities that stay poor and never seem to get out of poverty.

21:41:30 [Leslie] Have you noticed that when people are down and out, they are more likely to be the ones to end up with a fender bender at the grocery store, or with a bike stolen off their property, or forget to pay a bill and get hit with a late fee…

21:42:31 [Lori] Yes, we’ve had a string of things happen in the last 8 weeks, adn I kept saying, “We’re having such bad luck.” Over and over I said that, until listening to the

21:42:36 [Lori] conference this week.

21:43:07 [Leslie] as much as they hate it, they continue to attract hardships because they think about them, talk about them, complain about them… they are so focused on worry and hardship, that they are literally keeping themselves in the same vibration that attracted all the problems in the first place.

21:43:27 [Leslie] like water to water.

21:43:41 [Leslie] and then there are the rich people

21:44:55 [Leslie] some people have never experienced lack, and they expect things will go their way, because it always does, and they always have all they need, and more, and with that mindset, they are literally keeping themselves in the right vibration to be in the right places at the right times to be drawn to

21:45:06 [Lori] Does the Law of Rhythm mean that we have to go through these hard times , though?

21:45:13 [Leslie] right opportunities to keep them in abundance.

21:45:31 [Lori] I have a brother who is like that last example!

21:45:48 [Lori] I have another brother who never has anything and always wonders why.

21:45:56 [Leslie] there will be what seem like ups and downs our whole life.

21:46:23 [Leslie] without them, we wouldn’t know when we feel good, because we’d have nothing to compare it to… but…

21:47:03 [Leslie] I would much rather live on an upward climb. In my mind I look at my downs as plateaus…

21:47:36 [Leslie] I think we “feel” happiness when we are up, but up can be simply relative to our previous “up”

21:48:04 [Leslie] we can either go up and down and go nowhere…

21:48:33 [Leslie] or learn and grow through each cycle and end up in a higher place

21:48:56 [Leslie] I like to illustrate this with a wavy up and down line…

21:49:06 [Leslie] which is how some people view life…

21:49:29 [Leslie] but take that wavy line and turn it 45 degrees and you have a staircase.

21:49:48 [Lori] Ah, yes!

21:49:55 [Leslie] that happens so long as we submit ourselves to changing the way we think

21:50:26 [Leslie] So are you wondering how to change our vibration?

21:50:55 [Lori] Yes, how to get what I need — like dh’s job back, or a better one than before.

21:51:53 [Leslie] okay. Do you think he would be with you in this effort of will you be doing it on your own?

21:52:12 [Lori] He would do it, too.

21:52:56 [Leslie] Take some time with him and create a list of exactly the kind of job he would like to have…

21:53:44 [Leslie] Write it down. Include the kind of salary, the kind of commute, the hours, the benefits, the kind of people he’d be working with, anything else about it that he can think of.

21:53:57 [Lori] ok

21:54:00 [Leslie] Where do you live?

21:54:49 [Lori] Fairhope, Alabama, on the Florida border – on the Gulf Coast

21:55:19 [Leslie] how many people in your community would you guess?

21:56:03 [Lori] Fairhope is small – only a few thousand. Jobs are in the bigger towns.

21:56:18 [Lori] Only around 300,000 in the whole county, which is pretty large.

21:56:27 [Leslie] okay, did he commute before?

21:56:56 [Lori] To a town called Daphne. There are I think about 10,000 there but a booming town.

21:57:41 [Lori] No, 10,000 is too small. Maybe more like 40,000 in Daphne. I’m guessing based on teh county size.

21:58:02 [Leslie] Well, as you make the list, also take the time to talk aobut and feel what it would be like to actually have that kind of job.

21:58:07 [Lori] It is just a 16-mile commute.

21:58:16 [Leslie] -about- sorry

21:58:18 [Lori] The ideal job?

21:58:44 [Leslie] the part about “feeling what it would be like to have the ideal job” is the crucial factor

21:58:49 [Leslie] yes

21:59:11 [Lori] Then what?

22:00:05 [Leslie] then I would pray about it and ask, “this is what we are seeking, is this a worthy goal?”

22:00:25 [Lori] ok

22:00:30 [Leslie] And believe me, God wants us to have good things.

22:01:54 [Leslie] I just mention that because it wouldn’t be appropriate to apply these principles if we were seeking to have the fancy car for the purpose of making our brother in law think you are better than him or something goofy like that.

22:02:20 [Lori] Yes, I see what you mean!

22:03:39 [Leslie] I mention that also because we are told over and over in the scriptures that if we ask, we shall receive. So we should practice asking, and this is a great way to do that

22:03:59 [Lori] So, step one is to imagine it and write it down in detail…step 2 is to check with God.

22:04:24 [Lori] I admitted earlier to Marnie and Amy that I’m not good at asking God for much…I’m much better at praising Him.

22:05:13 [Leslie] I’d say step 2 is to imagine how it would feel first. Someone else might disagree with that, but that is how I do it.

22:05:25 [Lori] ok

22:06:03 [Leslie] after checking with God, then you spend time daily imagining how it would feel.

22:06:22 [Lori] As part of vibration?

22:06:29 [Leslie] What you are doing is training your subconscious mind to change your “vibration”

22:06:46 [Leslie] your vibration is controlled by your subconscious mind.

22:06:59 [Leslie] and you are trying to override all the old programming.

22:07:14 [Leslie] Here’s the coolest part:

22:08:28 [Leslie] when we have changed our vibration, then the things that need to happen to make the goal come true, start happening with very little effort.

22:09:22 [Leslie] someone might call with a lead, or you will be led to the right ad in the paper, or you’ll happen to drive past something that makes you think to call so-n-so…

22:09:47 [Leslie] you never know. You just act on the little nudges that come to mind.

22:10:08 [Leslie] But remember that you have to believe. Doubt and fear sabotage it all.

22:10:23 [Leslie] But because this is a LAW, you can depend on it.

22:10:25 [Lori] It’s all part of trust in God, isn’t it?

22:11:08 [Lori] When you did the class, you mentioned free will and how God can’t bless us if we are repelling it.

22:11:09 [Leslie] exactly. I remember feeling like I was supposed to have faith, but until I learned the law behind it all, it was very hard to maintain belief.

22:11:20 [Leslie] right

22:11:49 [Lori] This does make it easier to maintain belief, as you said.

22:12:03 [Leslie] I have a part 2 to this, but I want to make sure you don’t have any more questions so far about what we’ve talked about.

22:12:23 [Lori] No, it’s clear. Thanks!

22:12:36 [Leslie] okay, here’s the next coolest part:

22:12:57 [Leslie] how do you know if you have been successful in turning it over to your subconscious mind?

22:13:03 [Leslie] I’ll tell you…

22:13:31 [Leslie] first you have to understand how your subconscious mind (sc) works

22:14:22 [Leslie] it is the part of our mind that operates automatic things like keeping our heart beating. It also is what controls the kind of vibration we are in.

22:14:36 [Lori] ok

22:15:16 [Leslie] While our CONscious mind had the ability to accept or reject an idea, our SC cannot do that. Once something reaches it, it unconditionally believes the idea to be TRUTH.

22:15:45 [Leslie] Like we may have accepted the “truth” that there’s never enough money.

22:15:59 [Lori] Yes, I’ve done that one!

22:16:41 [Leslie] with that so-called “truth” in place, we are perpetually drawn by our vibration to circumstances that keep that truth alive in our environment.

22:17:19 [Leslie] Here’s another good example, “I am overweight.”

22:17:50 [Leslie] no diet, no discipline, NOTHING will change the reality until the SC has been convinced of a new truth

22:18:36 [Leslie] Even if we eat the very same things as someone else, our body will cling to whatever it needs to maintain the image we have of ourselves in our SC.

22:19:35 [Lori] Oh, that’s amazing.

22:19:48 [Leslie] So back to the question, “how do I know I have imagined the feeling long enough to change my vibration?”

22:20:06 [Lori] Right.

22:20:09 [Leslie] (the feeling of having the job in place, or whatever)

22:20:35 [Leslie] there is a completely dependable indicator…

22:20:56 [Leslie] let me ask you a question…

22:21:24 [Leslie] if you were forced to accept 2 opposing ideas as truth, how would you feel?

22:21:39 [Lori] confused

22:21:50 [Lori] and discouraged.

22:21:57 [Leslie] right

22:22:41 [Leslie] when your SC is forced to accept 2 opposing ideas as truth, it causes feelings of discomfort in you.

22:23:03 [Leslie] This shows up as fear, insecurity, dis-ease, nervousness

22:23:29 [Leslie] So suppose you have planted the idea firmly of the great job, and along comes an interview.

22:23:54 [Leslie] if you have been successful in changing your vibration, or at least disturbing it from its old status…

22:24:17 [Leslie] then you and/or your husband will feel like freaking out and you won’t know why.

22:24:57 [Lori] in a good way?

22:35:21 [Leslie1] You’ll freak out because you will feel fear and discomfort. It only means your SC is wrestling to make sense of two ideas that are supposedly true, but incongruent with each other.

22:35:36 [Lori] ok

22:35:40 [Leslie1] That is called the “terror barrier”

22:36:04 [Lori] But that is not a sign to not go on the interview?

22:36:12 [Leslie1] Most people interpret that to mean that it isn’t supposed to happen for them: the change is wrong (change from lack to abundance)

22:36:38 [Leslie1] most people throw the new idea away and cower at the new opportunity.

22:36:50 [Leslie1] and they revert to the same old vibration as before.

22:37:08 [Leslie1] but knowing what is going on is so empowering…

22:37:31 [Leslie1] because when you feel the fear, you can KNOW that you are THIS CLOSE to realizing the dream.

22:37:57 [Leslie1] All you have to do is proceed in SPITE of the fear, and you break through the terror barrier.

22:38:18 [Leslie1] and the fear goes away. FEAR: false evidence appearing real.

22:38:22 [Lori] And if we received confirmation from God in the first place, we only need to remind ourselves of that during the terror barrier, right?

22:39:18 [Leslie1] Right. Now you see why getting His approval is such a good idea. Otherwise, you’d question it at that barrier, and most people aren’t strong enough to break through on their own.

22:40:17 [Lori] I see.

22:40:28 [Leslie1] But once you have established the new “vibration”, keeping it there gets easier because you no longer are trying to believe in abundance that you don’t already have… you get to believe in abundance that you have all around you.

22:42:30 [Lori] I can understand that.

22:42:33 [Leslie1] If you sign up for my newsletter at http://www.thoughtsalive.com/contact.php , you’ll get the first chapter of my book that explains how our thoughts turn into real-life things as we live by these laws.

22:45:03 [Lori] I’ve been curious, with you and with Marnie on Tuesday: why are you willing to spend so much time helping just one person (me) understand all of this?

22:46:00 [Leslie1] You know how I described how poor people keep themselves poor and how rich people keep themselves rich by the vibrations they keep?

22:46:36 [Lori] Right.

22:47:04 [Leslie1] I think that most rich people aren’t even aware of these laws. Only someone that has once had it bad, and managed to break out of it could ever really appreciate the power behind understanding the laws.

22:48:11 [Leslie1] I took that journey, and it just is SO AMAZING to me, and so darn simple, I hunger to see other people discover it and see it work too.

22:48:28 [Lori] I’m grateful for our tough times. I’m hoping these new tough times will be used to help someone in the future.

22:48:54 [Leslie1] I am grateful for mine too… but I didn’t always feel that way.

22:49:35 [Lori] No, neither have I. But the hard times before made the hard times now be easier — I mean, we’ve been poor before,

22:49:46 [Leslie1] I know that I can use these principles to make any changes I’ll need to make through my whole life.

22:49:50 [Lori] so when we unexpectedly didn’t have an income 8 weeks ago, we knew how to react.

22:50:41 [Lori] I am so excited to have these laws. I was in a rut of saying we were having such bad luck — and more and more crazy things were happening to keep that statement true!

22:51:03 [Leslie1] And that’s why I feel rich… not because of money, but because of the knowledge of the power we have in our own mind.

22:51:22 [Leslie1] well I’m impressed that you knew to react in a faithful way 8 weeks ago

22:51:25 [Lori] Thank you so much for your time! I know God will bless you for it.

22:51:53 [Leslie1] Well, I look forward to hearing from you when it all plays out.

22:52:08 [Lori] Um, my attitude wasn’t always right 8 weeks ago, I just mean that I know how to be poor — like as in how to shop frugally.

22:52:44 [Lori] My attitude had to go through many changes. I think it was a God leading that I stumbled upon shelovesgod.com just a week or two before this conference.

22:53:41 [Leslie1] funny how He does that… I found it 2 years ago as an answer to some of my own frustrations over some other things.

22:54:01 [Leslie1] 2 1/2 years ago, I guess

22:54:29 [Lori] You know, this week our “luck” has changed in a few ways. Coincidence?

22:54:45 [Leslie1] no such thing

22:54:52 [Leslie1]

22:54:59 [Lori] I don’t think so either.

22:56:06 [Lori] Thank you again! I’ll let you go now and get some sleep.

22:56:44 [Leslie1] You too, it’s been nice talking with you. You know how to reach me with your success story

22:57:31 [Lori] I will, already it has been successful. I’ll keep you posted! Thanks for the book chapter — I’ll read it tomorrow. Goodnight!

22:57:51 [Leslie1] Goodnight.

For more on this topic, read about the other 7 laws of success.

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Leaning on the Lord in a Financial Crisis

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I just stumbled onto this old file and thought it may be of use to someone – so I’m posting it here.  It’s a transcript of a chat I conducted way back in 2002:

“Leaning on the Lord in a Financial Crisis” with Leslie Householder

Chat held at the SheLovesGod Virtual Women’s Conference Oct. 16, 2002

[Leslie] While we are waiting to get underway, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Leslie Householder, and I will be conducting this chat with Marnie Pehrson today. We’re glad you stopped by…

[Leslie] I have found in my own life during the last few years a few things that has helped me tremendously with my faith and hope during times of trial, and I hope to transfer some of it here today.

[Leslie] During the chat, if you have a specific question, go ahead and shoot, and as we are able I will try to address as many questions as I can.

[LaMonica] I have a question

[Leslie] go ahead

[Leslie] in the meantime, I want each of you to get a piece of paper

[LaMonica] I lost my job on the 30th of Sept and my pastor has been preaching on having faith and trusting God. I do I know that I am truly trusting Him if I do not trust my self

[Leslie] LaMonica, I think what we will talk about today will help with your faith, ok? Write down (each of you) what blessing or change you are hoping to attain in your life.

[Leslie] and if anyone would like to add to the chat what they are hoping to gain from attending the class today…

[Leslie] I am going to continue as you are doing this…

[Jnn] I’ve been reading a LOT about abundance from a secular point of view and trying to practice it, but I’m eager to hear a Christian perspective.

[Sonya] I really want to be the woman that God has called me to be. I’m finding that as my relationship grows, it is becoming increasingly important to use my talents and abilities for His glory.

[LaMonica] I just want to be the wife and mother God has called me to be…but I know that I need to help out financial as well. We have 2 car notes rent and 5 children that not including the rest that goes with life

[Leslie] sometimes we have a desire for something that we believe God could provide us with, but it is hard to have faith in something you can’t see yet.

[Jnn] very hard — especially if you have limiting beliefs

[Leslie] One thing I want you to all know is that “desire” is reality seeking expression. You do not have any good desire unless the way is being prepared for it to happen.

[Sonya] I believe what the word of God says and the promises from Him that I hold dear in my heart concerning my life. It’s the PROCESS that I am finding difficult.

[Leslie] Have any of you heard of the story in Judges about Gideon’s army against the Midianites

[Sonya] yes

[Jnn] no

[LaMonica] I was reading in James ch2:14-26. It talks about Faith without works is dead. I know that it is impossible to please God with out faith. But how do I know I am really doing what God wants me to do?

[LaMonica] not sure

[Leslie] Gideon needed to defend his army against a massive enemy. Think of your situation, you are Gideon, the Midianites are your opposition, be it lack of faith, or bill collectors, or whatever your opposition is.

[Leslie] We so often base our faith on the things that we see, our circumstances.

[Leslie] True faith comes from believing in something that hasn’t manifest itself yet.

[Jnn] true

[LaMonica] I try to live by walk by faith and not by sight but it hard because the pain can be too much

[Sonya] the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen

[Leslie] So what will happen? The things that your spend your time thinking about are the things that are on their way. Your comments are all so right.

[Leslie] Try this…

[Leslie] think of a dog not chasing a cat.

[Leslie] what did you see?

[Sonya] I see a very bored dog

[Leslie] what was the first thing that came to mind?

[LaMonica] I have some beliefs in some things I want for my life and family but I do I know if it is Gods will for us. I know about calling those things that are not as if they were

[Jnn] can’t do it

[Marnie] a dog chasing a cat

[Jnn] see dog chasing cat

[LaMonica] something is wrong with the dog

[Leslie] thank you Marnie!

[Jnn] me, too

[Leslie] when I say “the dog is not chasing the cat”, the first thing I see in my mind is a dog chasing a cat, and I have to force it from there to change to the bored dog.

[Leslie] Back to Gideon,

[Sonya] like the cup being half full?

[Leslie] he went with his army of 32,000 to battle, but the Lord told him that was too many. Yes, we have to watch our thoughts, as Jesus told us. Not just what we do, but what we think.

[Leslie] Why wouldn’t Gideon just take his 32,000 men to fight?

[LaMonica] Reminds of when Paul says I want to do good but I do the evil anyway.

[Leslie] The Lord told him to reduce his army so that when they win, they will know it was God’s hand that saved them, and not themselves

[Sonya] there were too many men for the Israelites

[Marnie] Cause the Lord kept telling him to take fewer and fewer until he got down to only 300 men.

[Leslie] Just like David and Goliath. God shows us over and over in the scriptures how he gives daunting tasks to the small, and they conquer.

[Marnie] To show forth God’s power

[Leslie] Right, first the Lord told Gideon to send the fearful men home first.

[Sonya] God also wanted the Israelites to depend on Him for the victory, lest they shalt get a big head and

[Leslie] Do you see a parable in THAT?

[LaMonica] Yes

[Leslie] We have to NOT allow ourselves to fear.

[Sonya] boast of their own power

[Kathy] Fear–the big obstacle

[Leslie] When you feel fear, consciously tell yourself you can’t allow it. Picture all the little army men in your head and send the fearful ones away.

[LaMonica] I was once told the Devil lives off fear like God lives off Faith

[Leslie] Know, KNOW that the battle is won AFTER the fearful men are sent away.

[Leslie] Good one, LaMonica.

[Kathy] That’s really good!

[Sonya] amen!!

[Leslie] The army was reduced to 10,000

[Jen] wow for just jumping in on this chat …WOW what a great comparison!

[Leslie] isn’t it interesting that there were more men that feared than were brave.

[Sonya] very interesting

[Leslie] So just because you might tend to feel more fear than faith, God has shown that it is good enough, as you send the fear away.

[LaMonica] I know that there are 3 sizes of faith mustard seed, little and GREAT. I thought that I was passed the mustard seed to little and some times I think I have no faith at all

[Leslie] The next thing he told Gideon was to bring them to the water.

[Leslie] What does water represent in the scriptures?

[Leslie] Who is the living water?

[Marnie] Christ is the Living Water

[Leslie] right

[LaMonica] God

[Sonya] CHRIST

[Jnn] Christ

[Leslie] so we must send the fear away, and that might be a daily exercise…

[Leslie] and then we need to come unto Christ. God allows us to have challenges so that we will come to Him.

[Leslie] We go to him in prayer and acknowledge our dependence on him. We repent of our unfaithfulness. We beg for assistance, and believe He is powerful to deliver.

[Leslie] But there were many that came to the water and were still sent home.

[LaMonica] But how many times does a person have to go down that road? I mean I feel like I have been down this road before and God has seen us through but here I am again.

[Sonya] As long as it takes you to learn the lesson.

[Kathy] Or maybe He wants your faith to grow even more

[Cathy] we constantly travel the road even when we learn, always learning

[LaMonica] I was told to tell the story at the beginning before the end comes. I need to praise God now so when the storm is over I will still be praising

[Leslie] Then let’s move on to the laws… first take your paper and draw a circle the size of a sippy cup lid (I’m a mom)

[Sonya] he Israelites wandered for 40 years, until God told them that they’ circled around the mountain long enough, now turn North

[Leslie] From the bottom of the circle, draw a short line down, and at the end of it draw a smaller circle.

[Leslie] From the bottom of the circle, draw a short line down, and at the end of it draw a smaller circle.

[Leslie] Now, in the top larger circle, draw a horizontal line through the center.

[Leslie] on top of the large circle, draw 5 or 6 little lines, like antennae

[Leslie] and coming out of the little circle, draw four little lines representing arms and legs.

[Leslie] What we have here is a stickman, and it is you.

[Leslie] be sure that the top circle is larger, that is important.

[Leslie] this entire diagram represents your mind

[Jnn] not an artist, but I got it

[Leslie] the top half of the large circle is your conscious mind

[LaMonica] ok

[Leslie] the bottom half is your subconscious.

[Leslie] the little circle is your body

[Leslie] your body, your actions are controlled by your subconscious.

[Leslie] that is why we often have habits that we find very hard to break, because we haven’t yet been successful at changing what is in the subconscious…but that is a whole different lesson for another time.

[Leslie] now….

[Sonya] some time soon I hope

[LaMonica] I know what you mean

[Jnn] yeah, I’d like to hear that lesson, too

[Leslie] draw a line to the right of the body, coming out of it, and put a little arrow at the end of it, pointing to the right

[Leslie] at the end of the arrow, put the word RESULTS

[Leslie] word

[Leslie] the antennae at the top of your head is the input place for what goes into your mind

[Leslie] each antenna represents our different senses.

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[Leslie] can we name them? Shoot

[Leslie] sight

[Marnie] see hear taste touch smell

[Leslie] help me out…

[Sonya] sight, smell, hearing

[Jnn] taste, touch, hearing, sight, smell

[Leslie] thanks, Marnie! Saves the day again

[Leslie] Now, whatever comes into our conscious mind, we have the ability to accept or reject as truth.

[Leslie] That is important for you to remember. You have a filter on your conscious mind

[Leslie] But! (And there’s always a big but…)

[LaMonica] We are told in the WORD that we can take our thoughts captive…

[Leslie] There is NO filter on your subconscious mind.

[Leslie] whatever you hold in your conscious mind, with emotion (because emotion is the method that a thought is turned over to your subconscious…)

[Leslie] is what ends up in your subconscious.

[Sonya] is that the place where our experiences create our mindsets?

[Leslie] yes, and it doesn’t matter what the emotion is….

[Leslie] it could be excitement, it could be fear…

[Leslie] whatever the dominant emotion is.

[Leslie] notice something now…

[Leslie] look at the RESULTS

[Leslie] We spend most of our time paying attention to our results.

[Leslie] we are utilizing the little SEE antenna…

[Leslie] and what kind of emotions are we feeling?

[Leslie] Marnie?

[Sonya] depends on how we equate the situation with past hurt doesn’t it?

[Marnie] Well, if we see something in our lives we don’t like, we might be feeling doubt and fear which would just result in more of what we don’t want.

[Sonya] I like your answer better Marnie

[Leslie] exactly. These are natural laws, so to speak, and God doesn’t interfere automatically in making that change.

[Leslie] Now draw a little cloud above the head

[Leslie] this represents a new idea… a picture in your mind of how you want things to be. It is imaginary, it hasn’t happened yet.

[Leslie] It is your desire

[Leslie] now it has to compete with the stimuli coming in from the antennae

[Leslie] but, if you hold it in your mind and do not cast it away with your doubt, then you have the power to turn it over to your subconscious…

[Leslie] There is a law of vibration that we won’t have time to discuss here, but will be available soon on http://www.thoughtsalive.com . SO, what kind of emotion do you think you could muster as you think about the idea in the little cloud? Feedback, please

[Kathy] Excitement

[Leslie] ok

[Leslie] what else?

[Sonya] indecisiveness

[Marnie] Gratitude

[Jnn] excitement mixed with doubt

[Cathy1] pleasantness

[Leslie] hmmm, let’s look for emotions that are positive, things that cast away doubt… Gratitude is powerful

[Jnn] need the gratitude

[Cathy1] joy

[Leslie] if you can think of the new idea, and CONVINCE your subconscious mind that it is ALREADY true; it won’t know the difference.

[Cathy1] peace

[Leslie] that is your goal. To feel grateful for it REALLY grateful, before it has happened. Is not that real faith?

[Leslie] It is like a game. You are trying to trick your subconscious.

[Leslie] if you fear your current circumstances more than you feel gratitude or excitement for the blessing you desire, then you are being counterproductive, and in a sense, God’s hands will be tied to help you from yourself.

[LaMonica] ok I see what you saying…It is they way we think about things that can truly control the results we want

[LaMonica] ok I see what you saying…It is they way we think about things that can truly control the results we want

[Kathy] I understand what you’re saying, but it seems a bit manipulative.

[Jnn] what I don’t understand is how God’s hands can be tied

[Leslie] It is true. And once it is well established in your subconscious, your body, or the physical part of you moves into a state of being that attracts what you want to yourself. Marnie, will you tell us about the acorn?

[Marnie] It’s self-control. The only thing you are manipulating is yourself… your own thoughts. If we don’t direct our own thoughts, trust me someone else will.

[Sonya] if I say that my”refinement period” is difficult, does that mean I’m not grateful?

[Leslie] He requires faith. If we do not have the faith, h

[Leslie] He cannot help us the way he would like to

[Kathy] I believe God needs our faith to act–we have to take risks, but God is bigger than our thoughts. Do you think we can MAKE something happen?

[Marnie] An acorn holds within it the plan for an oak tree… it doesn’t hold everything (all the materials it needs) to become an oak tree yet…

[Leslie] what do you mean by refinement period?

[Sonya] the refiner’s fire..Becoming more Christ like everyday..

[Marnie] If you hold the oak tree in your hand, it will never grow, but if you plant it in the right soil, it will sprout and grow and begin to draw to itself everything it needs to become a tree.

[Marnie] Our thoughts… our righteous desires are like the acorn. If we don’t plant it and hold it in our minds, they will never grow/materialize.

[Jnn] what about the prayer “help my unbelief”?

[Leslie] ah. Well, I have found that we are here to overcome obstacles, and grow closer to God through them. As we get better at exercising our faith, we are prepared for different challenges. These ideas are just a way to look at what is happening and a way to empower us to maintain faith. We

[Kathy] I also think honesty about our thoughts is important. I think God can handle our negative thoughts. I do agree that they can take root and defeat us, thought.

[Marnie] Faith is like a seed… plant it and it grows. Cast it out and nothing grows. That’s why James said faith without works is dead. The “work” is to plant the seed and follow the promptings the Lord gives you as you hold your vision with your eye of faith.

[Leslie] all struggle with faith, and at a time when I suffered from depression, I felt very discouraged because I could not seem to “hold” the positive thoughts long enough to turn it over to my subconscious. And I haven’t even gotten into what happens once it is there… I hope we have time… but during

[Leslie] that time, I would go in prayer with “help me with my unbelief…” and confess to Him that I just wasn’t capable. I was doing the best I could, but I needed him to make up the difference. And through Christ, I received the blessing anyway. But it required all I could do, and then a surrender, a

[Leslie] giving it over to Him.

[LaMonica] I know what you mean Leslie…I had to get away from the negative and be around people that were positive and read positive think positive in order to gain the positive back. Plus a lot of praying

[Leslie] Here’s an example of what happens once it is in our subconscious…

[Marnie] When we come to Christ and surrender to Him, we enter into a partnership with Him and His infinite goodness – His infinite “positiveness” can overpower our “negative.” It’s called His GRACE.

[Marnie] God’s Riches At Christ’s Expense

[Sonya] Thank You Jesus

[Marnie] Go ahead Leslie…take a few more minutes and talk about what happens once it is in our subconscious…

[Leslie] We were moving and needed a fridge. At the time we didn’t have the money to get one, and yet I wouldn’t let myself think about “oh, no, what are we gonna do??!!” Rather, I spent my quiet time visualizing the kind and color it would be, feeling gratitude that it was on it’s way…

[Leslie] and my husband and I went to a church social with it on our minds, and a man we rarely ever talk to was sitting and we just went and sat by him. (Our subconscious sort of leading the way… the Spirit works with us like that…)

[Leslie] and as we chatted with him, it came up in a very passive way and he said, “no kidding, I have one just like that that I am looking to get rid of. I was going to have the utility co come pick it up this week.”

[Leslie] God came through because we had faith and acted on the little promptings

[Leslie] I didn’t have to beg, I didn’t have to use my will power, and I only had to see it in my mind, and be grateful for it.

[LaMonica] That is just the kind of God He is

[Leslie] power, excuse me

[Leslie] So pay attention to your thoughts, and your emotions. Make sure you are only turning over thoughts of the unseen and not your circumstances. Don’t fear. Send the fear-men home!

[Leslie It looks like we are out of time, Marnie are we able to stay for questions?

[Marnie] Sure, you can stay all day for all I care.

[LaMonica] Thank you this was very helpful. I hope to be able to attend more of these

[Kathy] Thanks, Leslie. I have to return to my work now.

[Leslie] I am going to take a diaper change break, brb

[LaMonica] I about to take a leap of faith I am feeling out a Job application but I am praying that God will be done

[Marnie] Everybody Don’t forget our Teleclass today, “You’re Late Again Lord, The Impatient Woman’s Guide to God’s Timing” with author, Karon Goodman at 2:00 pm ET today.

[Marnie] One thing that Leslie didn’t get a chance to mention is the importance of knowing that what you are desiring is God’s Will for you.

[Jnn] if this abundance stuff is a Law, then when God is “late”, isn’t that because of our lack of faith?

[Marnie] The very first step is to make sure that your desires are in alignment with God’s will. And then you can KNOW that it WILL come to pass in its appointed time.

[Marnie] God is never late… just like the acorn, everything has it’s own gestation period. A tree takes years to grow; a baby takes 9 months to develop in the womb

[LaMonica] I have always found God to be on TIME…Just when I needed Him the most He shows up and Shows OUT

[Marnie] Your desires take time to germinate and grow.

[Marnie] You can’t lose faith and call God late… you just have to hang on and wait for the appointed time.

[Jnn] So the secular abundance people who say we can have anything we want are wrong?

[Sonya] Thank you for that Marnie, I think that’s what I really needed to hear.

[Marnie] You’re welcome. If you didn’t get a chance to ready my study lesson this week… you might like to read it.

[Marnie] It’s called “How to Really Give it to God”

[LaMonica] Sounds good I need that.

09:07:06 [Marnie] It discusses a lot of this. Also Leslie has an e-course on the site too called “Living the Abundant Life”

[Marnie] It’s http://www.shelovesgod.com/classes/abundance/

[Sonya] I read it a few days ago. It was very helpful.

[LaMonica] I think why I have not gotten what God has for me right now is because I have not truly turned everything over to Him.

[Leslie] Jnn, even godless people can get what they want, by using natural laws that govern prosperity… but it is important to me to know that what I desire is right for me. You know, “what profiteth a man if he should gain the whole world and lose his soul…”

[Jnn] oh!

[Leslie] Jnn, we can use the laws of success to get what you want… even godless people can use these principles… what they don’t understand though,…

[Jnn] I see what you mean !

[LaMonica] I have a lot of bitter and hatred in my heart towards my father wife. My father passed away in Jan of this year and it is hard for me to forgive her for some of the things that she has done to my father and me. But I pray that God will allow me to let it go and let him have His way.

[Leslie] hang on, Marnie, my page isn’t scrolling anymore, are my comments posting?

[Marnie] The Lord grants to us according to our desires – whether they be for our own good or whether they be for our detriment. That is why it is SOOO incredibly important to make sure our desires are in alignment with HIS will first

[Sonya] this makes so much sense!

[Jnn] I really never thought of that

Leslie enters this room

[LaMonica] I know that I cant be blessed holding on to anything that is not of God.

[Marnie] Glad it’s starting to make sense.

[Jnn] be careful what you ask for, is really true, I guess!

[Sonya] LM, I know how difficult forgiveness can be, but what’s the flip side? Can you have a fulfilling life with the Lord?

[Sonya] if you hold on to bitterness?

[Leslie] Right, you get what you ask for

[Sonya] You hold yourself in bondage

[LaMonica] Yes it has been 9months and now when someone tries to tell me what she says I pray Lord please do not let me accept what I am hearing

[Marnie] Proverbs tells us that “as a man thinketh so is he” Thoughts are powerful things. They’re ALIVE – right Leslie

[Leslie] That is one of those things that you beg the Lord for mercy. You don’t have to be perfect to see these principles work. But you do need to acknowledge your unworthiness and dependence.

[Leslie] “Mind is the Master power that molds and makes,

[Leslie] And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes

[Leslie] The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills,

[Leslie] Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills:

[Leslie] He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass,

[Leslie] Environment is but his looking glass.”

[Leslie] -James Allen,

[Leslie] “As a Man Thinketh”

[Marnie] Christ works MIRACLES and what is the definition of a MIRACLE? When God brings something about that seems to defy natural laws. It’s not that they are defied…it’s just that when we can’t live by them, if we trust in Christ, He lives in perfect harmony with them and we are in a partnership with Him and thus nothing is impossible for us.

[LaMonica] I have asked God to forgive me in March…the pain is not as bad as it used to be but I know I am not where I need to be

[Sonya] A family member abused me as a child and I spent SO many years hating him for it. Until I saw a vacation picture of him with his family. They were laughing and carrying on, and I got so mad because here I was sitting on the couch like Boo Boo the fool Hating him, when he could’ve care less. His

[Sonya] life was moving on, while mine was in a state of paralysis.

[Sonya] not cool.

[LaMonica] Thank you all for listening…it is hard for me to talk to anyone that knows me about this because they know what I have gone through with my day and his wife. They tell me I have a right to feel that way when I know in reality I do not because it is about GOD and not me or anyone else

[Sonya] God bless you sister

[LaMonica] Thank you

[Leslie] You have a desire for peace, and that alone is evidence that there will be a way. Hang on to that hope, and expect you’ll see it in reality one day.

[LaMonica] I keep repeating John 27:14 to myself. I make it personal. I put my name in the verse

[Marnie] I read an article once about a woman whos husband had been unfaithful. She was trying very hard to forgive, but just wasn’t able to do it yet. Her bishop advised her “to hold a place in your heart for forgiveness and when it comes, embrace it.”

[Marnie] In essence, he was teaching her these principles… to hold in her heart a place for what she wanted and when the time was right she would be able to forgive.

[Marnie] Eventually she did.

[Jnn] Ooh ! Tell me more about holding a place for something!!

[Jnn] Heard about it but don’t understand it

[Sonya] yes, do tell!

[Marnie] I think it’s acknowledging that you have a desire for something… even though you may have no clue how to achieve it or not be able to do it yet. You use these principles…

[LaMonica] I want so badly to forgive her but it hurts and I don’t want to be rejected by her. I want to be able to move pass this but it seems like the more I try the devil tells me why do it she is only out to hurt you and she do not care anything about you/

[Sonya] LM, I would like to be in agreement with you, but there is no John 27″14

[Marnie] You hold the desire in your mind… that you have forgiven that you can forgive and then as you do this, people, information, events will come along and you will be prompted how to use them to be able to gain what you desire.

[LaMonica] Sorry 14:27

[Sonya] Is it possible to have unforgiveness toward yourself, even if the events were not your fault? How do you deal with that? In the same manner?

[Marnie] In other words… don’t tell yourself, “I’ll never be able to forgive her” Tell yourself that you are in the process of finding forgiveness… That you are so happy and grateful that the Lord is helping you to forgive her.

[Jnn] when I heard it, the person described it in reference to expecting a person to be kind or nice or receptive and then, they were…holding a place for them to be all those things. Does that work?

[Jnn] oops

[Jnn] can relate to your question, Sonya! I think we can!

[Marnie] I believe it does. I use this. I expect good from people and I invariably find the good.

[Marnie] I know someone who looks to be taken, mistreated and ill-liked and she is!

[Marnie] You draw to yourself what you’re focusing on. Focus on being able to forgive, being able to find wonderful people and you’ll find those things.

[Marnie] That’s really how I met Leslie…

[LaMonica] I have tried that too…but I never see her…I try to believe she has good in her but she continues to keep doing evil. Especially when she calls other people and tell them to tell me what to do. She for some reason thinks I am out to get her but I not. My father is asleep with the Lord let him

[Jnn] Is there a way to practice this new skill or train our selves? I’m finding it hard to do!

[Jnn] ourselves

[Marnie] I had some financial challenges and I went to the Lord and said, “Father, I know you have the answer. You know everything. You can teach me the principles I need to know to solve this situation.” Within a few weeks… I met Leslie and she started teaching me these principles and now

[Marnie] everything is so much better!

[Jnn] I have been pretty pessimistic in the past and am trying to change that

[Marnie] It’s like night and day.

[Jnn] so the secret is to find a good coach?

[Leslie] On the backside, I was struggling to forgive an individual and saw her article on forgiveness and replied to that. God uses bad situations to make good things happen.

[Marnie] Maybe so.

[Marnie] Right… if I had never had my financial situation, I never would have written the article on forgiveness… which made her reply to me, share her story and me tell her mine and her offer to teach me this.

[LaMonica] I have a song that says what the devil meant for your bad God has turned it around for your good.

[Marnie] Ask and ye shall receive… and in the Economy of the Lord He brings people together who have what each other needs. EXPECT him to do that for you.

[Leslie] first you must fix in your mind what you are after, get a coach if that’s what you are prompted to do. Read the Parable of the Jackrabbit, Marnie where would they find that?

[Sonya] I try to be a coach to a woman at work, but the is a little more than I can handle. I think she would rather get feedback from squirrels. She worships the universe.

[Sonya] no kidding

[Leslie]

[Marnie] Go to http://www.thoughtsalive.com/articles/ and click on the title.

[Jnn] sounds New Age

[Leslie] That story helps you understand why you can’t do what everyone else is doing to get what they got

[Jnn] the universe thing, I mean

[Sonya] I think it’s so important to have that rich soil Marnie spoke of earlier. I think you have to be prayerful, but also read and study the word. They go hand in hand.

[Marnie] definitely, Sonya

[Leslie] Reading and studying the Word is taking control of what goes through the little antennae.

[LaMonica] That is the point I am at now. I have bought me a NIV translation bible and It has opened my eyes a GREAT deal.

[Leslie] feeling the Spirit is the most powerful emotion there is for turning an idea over to the subconscious, and the Lord

[Sonya] this may be off track but how do you organize your study? I mean, how do you decide what you are going to read?

[Leslie] I fix in my mind what I want and act on promptings.

[Sonya] are you answering my question Leslie?

[LaMonica] I am reading in the book of James It talks about faith and wisdom and taming the tongue…when I read this I begin to pray for forgiveness

[Jnn] praise and worship seems like a good way to pair positive emotion with prayer for what you want.

[Leslie] two nights ago it was a simple, “open your scriptures” so I did and got an answer I needed, in a random place. Sometimes it is turn on BYUTV on cable, sometimes it is call a friend,

[Marnie] I think the most important talent we can develop is to learn to recognize and follow the promptings of the Spirit.

[Marnie] Also… to understand what the Spirit is saying to you.

[Jnn] amen to that

[Leslie] Always put yourself in a place to hear the Word. Go to church even when you are tired. Even when you are travelling.

[Leslie] Even if you don’t know anybody there

[Sonya] Was it Jehosaphat that kept asking the Lord for signs? If this is really you Lord…

[LaMonica] Ok you just gave confirmation to what my husband has been telling me

[Marnie] I think it was Gideon, Sonya

[LaMonica] We have a church service tonight and I told him we were not going and he said yes we were.

[Leslie] Funny, even Gideon did that. Right before the battle with the Midianites, he felt the Lord would help them win, but he doubted and asked that he put dew on only some lambs wool in the morning…

[LaMonica] Jehosaphat was the one that showed up for the battle and did not have to fight.

[Sonya] I’m glad this isn’t who wants to be a millionaire! Aye!

[Leslie] and then the next day or maybe it was the first time, anyway, he said, please don’t be upset with me, but could you please just now put dew on the ground around the wool and leave the wool dry?

[Leslie] I don’t feel good personally about asking for signs to prove He is there for me, but it is nice to know that he is merciful to our unbelief so long as we keep trying.

[LaMonica] I just want you all to know how much my spirit has been lifted. I feel the HOLY SPIRIT I want to shout and dance.

[Marnie] 🙂

[Jnn] this has been VERY helpful!!

[Leslie] And, Jnn, it is also nice to know that Christ has overcome the world for us, that is why believers can see miracles in spite of our weaknesses. Unbelievers have to rely solely on their ability to live by Natural law.

[LaMonica] nobody is home but me so I know that I won’t be bothering anyone

[Sonya] Don’t let us stop you! SHOUT!!!

[Leslie] lol

[Leslie] THIS is emotion!

[Leslie] What you desire is on its way!

[Jnn] I really wanted confirmation from Christians about this abundance stuff, and I’m glad to get it here

[Jnn] go for it, LaMonica !

[Marnie] I’m glad you found your answers today, ladies

[Jnn] oh, that IS cool !

[Sonya] OH GOD YOU ARE SO GOOD!

[Jnn] Amen !

[Marnie] Ask and ye shall receive…

[Sonya] I can’t shout, I’m at work, but I’m gonna do a little jig as soon as I log off.

[Leslie] used to be so trite, now you see why it is so TRUE

[Leslie] hoho LOL

[Leslie] still lol

[Marnie] I’d like to see your coworkers’ face when you do that!

[Leslie] Well, I need to go, It has been wonderful chatting with you all. Stop by anytime and say “hey” at http://www.thoughtsalive.com 😉

[Marnie] Thanks for staying late, Leslie. This has been great, just like I knew it would be.

[Jnn] Leslie, thank you !!!

[Sonya] they think I’m crazy anyway, it won’t phase them. it’s my peace they don’t understand.

[Marnie] Thanks for coming everyone. God bless you all as you seek after your righteous desires!

[Sonya] I love you all in the Lord. take care Bye!

[LaMonica] I feel so much better

[Jnn] thank you, and bless you, too !

[Jnn] bye everybody

[Marnie] That’s great LM

[LaMonica] Sonya do mind what is your email

[Marnie] bye!

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